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This book is well done and completely worth the read My initial response to how each letter discussion begins, e.g Dear John, I miss the long discussions we enjoyed when you lived nearby in Berkeley , was come on guys, just get to the discussion But, as the book goes on, those comments are actually kind of useful they remind us that the two authors are friends despite their theological differences Any sniping or shots in the book lack the personal rancor that might otherwise be suspected.Overall, the arguments in the book are clearly presented on both sides, and followed up by useful conversation Though it does take the two a while to get to the fundamental distinction between Catholics and Protestants not just Evangelicals specifically In Letter 54 of 60 , the McCarthy the Evangelical writes Only when we realize the futility of trying to find acceptance with God through living a good life can we cast ourselves upon God s mercy, trusting Jesus as our Savior 367 Waiss the Catholic responds You imply that obedience opposes faith, whereas Scripture says disobedience opposes faith Of course, both sides agree that sin seperates us from God, the fundamental distinction comes in when we begin talking about virtue This is the primary breaking point between Protestantism and Catholicism and no doubt my own belief will show here This is best seen in the different approaches to Philippians 3 4 9 I myself Paul have reason for confidence in the flesh also If anyone else thinks he has reason for confidence in the flesh, I have circumcised on the eighth day, of the people of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, a Hebrew of Hebrews as to the law, a Pharisee as to zeal, a persecutor of the church as to righteousness, under the law blameless But whatever gain I had, I counted as loss for the sake of Christ Indeed, I count everything as loss because of the surpassing worth of knowing Christ Jesus my Lord For his sake I have suffered the loss of all things and count them as rubbish, in order that I may gain Christ and be found in him, not having a rightousness of my own that comes from the law, but that which comes through faith in Christ, the righteousness from God that depends on faith A Protestant will read this passage and conclude that Paul is saying that his attempts to, as McCarthy puts it, sincerely seek God and do good in this life 370 were not only insufficient to bring him into a relationship with God, but were actually rubbish And rubbish is a huge gloss the old translation of dung is better, but the nearest English equivalent to the Greek word would be shit Paul is not pulling his punches Being a good person does not save In fact, the Christian is the person who recognizes that his attempts to be a good person are absolutely worthless in terms of creating a relationship with God Only faith in the life and death of Christ can create such a relationship A Catholic, on the other hand, would read this passage and conclude that Paul was not wrong to try to be a good person, he was merely talking about being a Pharisee It s not that his intentions were wrong, it s that he was going about it in the wrong way.All of this leads to the larger conversation of what is the point of the law , which the authors get into in the last letters in the book For the Catholic, God provides the law so that His people can obey and grow in their relationship with him For the Protestant, God provides the law to show that we have not obeyed, and to point to the life and death of Christ as the means to escape God s righteous anger at our disobedience It seems to me though the authors don t say this explicitly that all of the other arguments center around this one Other treatments of the issue are Luther for Armchair Theologians and On Being a Theologian of the Cross Reflections on Luther s Heidelberg Disputation, 1518. This book, by a current Catholic priest and a former Catholic evangelical minister, was very telling in that Mr McCarthy focused on numerous side issues such as his refusal to call his priest friend Father for one , and his apparent refusal to even accept Father John Weiss, the co author and a very compassionate, open hearted man of God, as a true Christian It is the exact type of rhetoric that actually drove me back to Catholicism both times I have been back in the Church for 5 years however recently took a short 4 month stint away towards Anglicanism but have again returned, and to stay this time , and I had forgotten just how technically minded some within fundamentalist sects can actually be, all while saying how much they love Catholics Thanks Mr McCarthy you opened my eyes nearly as much as your friend John MacArthur did a few years back when he proclaimed on the radio Pope John Paul II to be in hell to the congregation s audible laughter shortly after this saintly man s death He, too, claims to love Catholics I would hate to think how rough these guys would be if they hated us Catholicism isn t perfect, all but it is definitely Christian To suggest otherwise is to ignore the Bible we both use and cherish. As a person who grew up Catholic and is now Evangelical, this was a great book to read It really outlines the differences between the two perspectives The book is kind of a downer though because it makes you realize that there is a long way to go before any kind of unity occurs. [ Read Book ] ♠ Letters Between a Catholic and an Evangelical ⚓ This Book Presents A Unique Collection Of Correspondence Between Two Friends Who Have Spent Many Hours Discussing Their Faiths One A Catholic Priest, The Other An Evangelical Minister Their Candid Dialogue Illustrates How We Can Talk About Opposing Beliefs Without Resorting To Criticism That Is Mean Spirited, Sensationalistic, Or Inaccurate The Result Is A One Of A Kind, Balanced Presentation Of Six Key Issues Including How A Person Becomes Saved, Who The Teachers And Rulers Of The Church Are, And What It Takes To Get To Heaven The Fresh Insights Bring Clarity And Respect To Both Sides Of The Ongoing Dialogue Between Catholics And Evangelical Christians, And Readers Will Benefit By Being Able To Make Their Own Informed Conclusions About The Differences